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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] J. (2014). There Once was a Game called Flappy Bird. [Online] Available at: https://www.jesperjuul.net/ludologist/2014/02/10/there-once-was-a-game-called-flappy-bird/ %5BAcces&#8230;: [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: Leapfroglog		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[So then what was it that took Flappy to hit a critical mass? I understand there was a ton of viral mkting through reddit from the founders nephew(?). There are a plethora of games out that with the model you have outlined, why then was it Flappy that rose to the top? 

I want to boil this down further...was is the physics, was it the design, was it the nostalgia of the Mario-esque pipes. There may not be any answer to my inquiry, but the app&#039;s meteoric rise to success had me thinking quite a bit. 

I am also looking into the &quot;masterability&quot; of the game. Not too steep as to scare new players away, but not flat enough to give seasoned users a reason to stop. 

We are in a confusing age of gaming; one in which former RTS, RPG, MMO etc players have shifted to games like Flappy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then what was it that took Flappy to hit a critical mass? I understand there was a ton of viral mkting through reddit from the founders nephew(?). There are a plethora of games out that with the model you have outlined, why then was it Flappy that rose to the top? </p>
<p>I want to boil this down further&#8230;was is the physics, was it the design, was it the nostalgia of the Mario-esque pipes. There may not be any answer to my inquiry, but the app&#8217;s meteoric rise to success had me thinking quite a bit. </p>
<p>I am also looking into the &#8220;masterability&#8221; of the game. Not too steep as to scare new players away, but not flat enough to give seasoned users a reason to stop. </p>
<p>We are in a confusing age of gaming; one in which former RTS, RPG, MMO etc players have shifted to games like Flappy.</p>
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		By: Jesper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@SLotman I know Piou Piou. But that&#039;s not really the way copyright works. Compare Unreal Tournament to Quake. First person shooting. Sci-fi. etc. etc. etc. Would you say that Unreal Tournament is a blatant clone of Quake? Aren&#039;t they mechanically more similar than Flappy Bird is to Piou Piou? The fail state in Piou Piou is being pushed to the left of the screen rather than to hit the pipe. And the Piou Piou has cacti rather than pipes.

Since the Mario game has a fish, rather than a bird, it is not ripped. Nintendo does not hold copyright on green pipes or pixelated characters, the same way that Id does not hold a copyright on sci-fi soldiers, or on shooting in hallways.

It would be a copyright or cloning issue of you had the same gameplay as Piou Piou + cacti + nearly identical visual style. Or it could be copyright or cloning issue in relation to Nintendo if the graphics had actually been ripped, or if it involved an Italian plumber jumping on levels with similar layout as Super Mario.

For just about any popular game you can find dozens of earlier games that are similar in gameplay and graphical style. I don&#039;t understand why people would be so critical of Flappy Bird.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SLotman I know Piou Piou. But that&#8217;s not really the way copyright works. Compare Unreal Tournament to Quake. First person shooting. Sci-fi. etc. etc. etc. Would you say that Unreal Tournament is a blatant clone of Quake? Aren&#8217;t they mechanically more similar than Flappy Bird is to Piou Piou? The fail state in Piou Piou is being pushed to the left of the screen rather than to hit the pipe. And the Piou Piou has cacti rather than pipes.</p>
<p>Since the Mario game has a fish, rather than a bird, it is not ripped. Nintendo does not hold copyright on green pipes or pixelated characters, the same way that Id does not hold a copyright on sci-fi soldiers, or on shooting in hallways.</p>
<p>It would be a copyright or cloning issue of you had the same gameplay as Piou Piou + cacti + nearly identical visual style. Or it could be copyright or cloning issue in relation to Nintendo if the graphics had actually been ripped, or if it involved an Italian plumber jumping on levels with similar layout as Super Mario.</p>
<p>For just about any popular game you can find dozens of earlier games that are similar in gameplay and graphical style. I don&#8217;t understand why people would be so critical of Flappy Bird.</p>
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		By: SLotman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Flappy Bird is among the least guilty games in terms of cloning and borrowing graphics.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Do your research. &lt;a href=&quot;https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.pioupiou&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Flappy Bird is a blatant copy of a game called &quot;Piou Piou&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.  A French game, with a flying bird, dodging green cactus.  

Also, the &quot;bird&quot; is ripped from Mario - its a fish that jumps out of water in the original game.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Flappy Bird is among the least guilty games in terms of cloning and borrowing graphics.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Do your research. <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.pioupiou" rel="nofollow">Flappy Bird is a blatant copy of a game called &#8220;Piou Piou&#8221;</a>.  A French game, with a flying bird, dodging green cactus.  </p>
<p>Also, the &#8220;bird&#8221; is ripped from Mario &#8211; its a fish that jumps out of water in the original game.</p>
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