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	Comments on: Games to try to Hate. (What is the Pink Floyd of video games?)	</title>
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		By: B		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2020 03:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.jesperjuul.net/ludologist/2008/08/13/games-to-try-to-hate-what-is-the-pink-floyd-of-video-games/comment-page-1/#comment-53177&quot;&gt;Morten S. Clausen&lt;/a&gt;.

Only people that have an excuse not to like Pink Floyd are deaf people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.jesperjuul.net/ludologist/2008/08/13/games-to-try-to-hate-what-is-the-pink-floyd-of-video-games/comment-page-1/#comment-53177">Morten S. Clausen</a>.</p>
<p>Only people that have an excuse not to like Pink Floyd are deaf people.</p>
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		By: B		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2020 03:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pink Floyd one of the best bands ever.  GTA and WOW are trash.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pink Floyd one of the best bands ever.  GTA and WOW are trash.</p>
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		By: Morten S. Clausen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morten S. Clausen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hate people that hate Pink Floyd.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate people that hate Pink Floyd.</p>
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		By: Morten Flaten		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morten Flaten]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, what&#039;s a bit special about Pink Floyd is how they managed to top the charts for so many years with *so different albums* 
Think of it.  Dark Side --&#062; Wish You Were Here --&#062;Animals--&#062;The Wall.  Not to mention the differences in their earlier albums AND the two last ones. They made pretty different albums and different music for each one, which few bands can claim to have done similar. 

So, I think the question is wrong, the Pink Floyd of games can&#039;t be one game.  If you prefer The Wall, well, maybe it&#039;s a thematic and linear game a la Grim Fandango  (oh well, I just got a free chance to mention one of my favourite games)   And if you&#039;re into UmmaGumma maybe Portal is the game.

M:)rten]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what&#8217;s a bit special about Pink Floyd is how they managed to top the charts for so many years with *so different albums*<br />
Think of it.  Dark Side &#8211;&gt; Wish You Were Here &#8211;&gt;Animals&#8211;&gt;The Wall.  Not to mention the differences in their earlier albums AND the two last ones. They made pretty different albums and different music for each one, which few bands can claim to have done similar. </p>
<p>So, I think the question is wrong, the Pink Floyd of games can&#8217;t be one game.  If you prefer The Wall, well, maybe it&#8217;s a thematic and linear game a la Grim Fandango  (oh well, I just got a free chance to mention one of my favourite games)   And if you&#8217;re into UmmaGumma maybe Portal is the game.</p>
<p>M:)rten</p>
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		By: Robert Cooksey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Cooksey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Portal is Bullocks&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Portal is Bullocks&#8221;</p>
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		By: Max Clark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i hate diablo iii.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate diablo iii.</p>
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		By: Chun		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hate GTA because wannabe gangsters are annoying enough without also being armchair wannabe gangsters. There&#039;s also something about this contemporary gangster fantasy that is more annoying than other fantasies, you can have similar character archetypes, the callous nihilistic wise guy, but if he&#039;s in a space opera or military thriller I don&#039;t find it annoying, put him in the gonzo world of GTA though and he seems to invite a more delusional identification than others. All this subversive paraphernalia seems to be deeply disingenuous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate GTA because wannabe gangsters are annoying enough without also being armchair wannabe gangsters. There&#8217;s also something about this contemporary gangster fantasy that is more annoying than other fantasies, you can have similar character archetypes, the callous nihilistic wise guy, but if he&#8217;s in a space opera or military thriller I don&#8217;t find it annoying, put him in the gonzo world of GTA though and he seems to invite a more delusional identification than others. All this subversive paraphernalia seems to be deeply disingenuous.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I hate WoW&quot; , so many people doing exactly the same thing every day....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I hate WoW&#8221; , so many people doing exactly the same thing every day&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Jesper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve, I agree - but I also think that players generally are fans of specific games rather than developers; there are fewer emotions towards devs than towards games.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I agree &#8211; but I also think that players generally are fans of specific games rather than developers; there are fewer emotions towards devs than towards games.</p>
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		By: Steve Ince		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Ince]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aren&#039;t the examples wrong if we&#039;re doing a parallel?  Because it was &quot;I hate Pink Floyd&quot; the parallel would be &quot;I hate id&quot; or &quot;I hate Blizzard&quot; or even &quot;I hate Sony&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t the examples wrong if we&#8217;re doing a parallel?  Because it was &#8220;I hate Pink Floyd&#8221; the parallel would be &#8220;I hate id&#8221; or &#8220;I hate Blizzard&#8221; or even &#8220;I hate Sony&#8221;</p>
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